Redcliff vs 4 Men tipi

[Fedster]

I keep looking at the specs and they seem pretty close. Really close. Would it make sense to have a line saying 'for X,Y,Z use prefer the tipi, for W,Z use prefer the Redcliff'? Unless I am missing the obvious to me it is a choice between pyramid vs conical shape, all else being basically equal. Both tents are pretty cool, but I look at them and think: why am I given the choice?

[DaveChenault]

Redcliff has more useable interior room (esp when it comes to sleeping >2 people) and is a lot more intuitive to pitch. 4 person has a slight edge when it comes to weather resistance due to additional tieouts and totally symmetrical shape.

[reaper]

How many peoples you expect?

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[reaper]

Where you live,do you have a lot of wind,mountain with trees or more flat fields???

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[Akicita]

[swisski]

I'm assuming you mean cimarron vs 4 man, because the redcliff is significantly bigger than the 4 man...

[kevin_t]

[Akicita]

[kevin_t]

Be glad to go out sometime just send me an email or pm. Thanks for sharing the story. Was it a group from 14ers.com ? Big heated shelters don't seem to be their MO. I've had a few friends there over time ..done a few peaks been to a couple gatherings and had a good time.

[Southern Lights]

Hello,

I am debating the 4 man tipi vs. the Redcliff. I understand the Redcliff is larger and slightly heavier. But I was wondering for a solo hunter or with perhaps one other person does the 4 man offer any advantages? Is it mainly the 10ozs or so lighter? I am not interested in smaller options as I want standing room. I am planning on using either the tipi or Redcliff in conditions ranging from dry to extremely wet temperate rainforest. There may also be some times with exposure above treeline, although I always try to pitch tents with some kind of natural wind protection if available.

I am also suspecting that due to the wet conditions that a liner is a must. Even if I can run a wood stove, I'm just concerned that condensation will overwhelm the tent without a liner present. How does the Redcliff liner work vs. the tipi liner in terms of effectiveness and space usage?

I am planning on running the SXL stove. I figured for the 8ozs. of the large stove I get a much bigger door and firebox. Seems like a good trade if it works in either tent.

Why I might want to pick the tipi over the pyramid or vice versa? I am leaning tipi simply because it reportedly has a better foul weather handling capability. But I really don't have any experience with tipis or pyramids to know how true this is or is not.

Any input is appreciated.