Condensation and ventilation

[rooster_c]

Most of my experience has been with double walled backpacking tents and occasional tarp usage. I know that condensation is inevitable in some situations. Does adding a nest typically help with condensation with a tent like the LBO or Cimarron? Would it make the experience more like what you'd find in a double wall tent?

Also, it looks like all Seek Outside shelters come standard with a sod skirt. Is the sod skirt designed to be raised up in conditions where extra ventilation is desired? If not, have you found that they lead to significantly greater condensation with the doors closed up? I'm assuming you guys have thought this stuff through, though, and you think the sod skirt is worth having.

[kevin_t]

We have a lot of ventilation options. The dual doors most tent come standard with not only increase usability but also can allow a ton of venting. The sod skirt can increase condensation but it also reduces drafts, so there is some give and take. In most tents you can defeat the sod skirt by using the inside tie out to pitch (our tie outs are generally a sandwich with a matching internal. This internal is often used for items like a liner or nest, and allows you to be able to re-stake from the inside in really poor weather.

[rooster_c]

Could a tent be ordered without the sod skirt? I'm mostly out in the summertime, and my biggest concern is condensation rather than drafts.

[kevin_t]

No they are built in, but you can use the inside stake loops which essentially defeat it.

[rooster_c]

I'm a dummy. I finally get what you're saying... makes sense. Thanks!

[Grant]

You can also unzip the top of the entries about 6-8 inches. This will help with ventilation as well as well as let any skeeters out that got inside the tent. I have found almost all bugs that make it in work their way to the top of the tipi/shelter.

[kevin_t]

The zipper venting at the top is probably more effective than a dedicated vent, since no see um blocks a lot of air flow. The key is it had to be at the very apex. A stick or something to prop it works well but is not storm proof. Just opened and letting the storm flap sort of cover it is relatively storm resistant


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[rooster_c]

Does the LBO have the interior stake-out loops?

[kevin_t]

I actually do not think so. If not, this would be an artifact of the LBO not having a sod skirt the first year of production. We had so many requests to add one, we eventually built it in. The LBO does vent very well though with dual doors and the beak + a vent

[bjp04b]

Does the Cimarron have the inside stake-outs?