Pack Color changes

[kevin_t]

You will notice in our store a few color and product positioning changes. In most cases, prices for the combination are very similar to what they were before, in some cases they are a little more or a little less.

This was done, really to reduce meet more users desires with fewer fabrics, reduce waste , and keep prices as low as we can, while being able to track items sold and plan a bit better.

I'm being real honest here, some of the old system was not working for us. For instance, talon colors which were done through options in the purchase. It was impossible to tell what was selling the most, or to properly plan.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. I imagine, there will be a few loose items on the site with respect to wording / etc.

You will also notice we are breaking out pack combinations, more based on the fabric and intended use.

As a quick note, in our opinion VX21 is a terrific fabric for most backpacking. However, it is not great for rock abrasion / talus / scree / canyon travel. Thus we added VX42 in Light Gray under Rugged Use. The suspension is the same, pack bags are still can be changed.

A couple other notes, we will no longer be offering Cuben on packs. It is a good lightweight fabric, but the weight difference is not that much, and I prefer the VX fabrics , even if they do not have the same "cool" factor as cuben. Cuben is a great lightweight fabric, but in our instance, it is not something we will be offering in pack bags.

X33 , is also something we have in a limited amount but will not be carrying anymore. We can build a few more packs, but it is costly. Once again it is a terrific fabric, but VX42 is better for the task.

Let me know if you have nay questions
Thanks
Kein

[swisski]

Out of curiosity, will the VX42 ever be available in multicam? or is that something that is being phased out with the X33 fabric.

[kevin_t]

I doubt it. I really like both x33 and x42, however they are both pricey fabrics with limited color options. We have investigated custom colors, however there is simply not enough consensus on colors to get a large enough volume to make a custom color work in one of those fabrics.

[mankind117]

So to summarize, no more grey vx-21, all in coyote color now with vx-21 the vx-42 is going from black to grey. Are the unaweep packbags as a separate item or the encasements to convert your unaweep to the evolution still going to be offered as stand alone items or are those gone to simplify things on your end?

[kevin_t]

The components will be available to change between as well as frames etc. We just need to get them up there and organized.

Also - No Cuben , for lightweight packs it is X21 RC in a light gray. Since X21 RC is a 210D face fabric it will have the same exterior abrasion as VX21 which is much higher than Cuben (although I do like Cuben, I personally like the DP / VX fabrics much better) . THe X21 RC, results in a pack about 2 ounces heavier than cuben , but we believe the longevity and lower price is worth it. While I like to go light, 2 ounces is not that much and most people could save 2 ounces in a lot of places for free if they wanted (less water / less food / etc).

Here are the links to the backpacks. We also believe splitting them up by a use category is in the long run a bit easier to understand.






We also have a weight chart , and volume chart added to the categories. These volumes are interior only in various configurations (not including water bottle pockets).

Please let me know if you have any questions.

[kevin_t]

If there is enough demand, we may consider bringing camo back in a select bag or two, however it may be back as XPAC X33 or as Cordura 500D. What we need to determine is, if longer lead times like 6 weeks (we have usually been within 2 -3 weeks or less) is acceptable. As it was, sales of it seemed very seasonal and not as much as other bags and it is an expensive material to stock for sporadic sales. Don't get me wrong, I love the X33 material, but it is 3 X as expensive as many 500D Cordura camo patterns, meaning having a bunch in stock that is sporadic in sales just isn't real good business.

Im curious to here if there is enough demand

Thanks

[swisski]

It definitely makes sense that you wouldn't want to have much if any on-hand since its sales are sporadic.

That being said, I would be totally fine with a lead time of 6 weeks if I knew I was still able to get it before say hunting seaons. I ordered my pack with the stone grey pack bag and camo talon which is a combo I love. I just didn't want to have an all camo pack, all the time. However during hunting season, it then would become my preferred choice.

[kevin_t]

Thanks for chiming in. As always with us, things are up for discussion, and we desire to solve customer desires, btu we have to do it in a way that makes good business sense. I don't like sitting on a lot of an expensive material.

[swisski]

Is the remaining X33 camo all sold out now?

[kevin_t]

Yes

Maybe we will do a limited run later if there is enough interest.