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We have been retaking weights of various configurations directly from production items , sans stuff sacks.

Here are a few items weighed today
* 12 Person pole - 51 ounces
* 6 / 8 alum 35.6 Ounces
* 6/8 carbon 20 ounces
* Small shelter pole 5.5 ounces
* BCS / 4 Person Carbon 13 ounces

12 Person UL No Screens 98.6
8 Person 70D / Screens 121




Stake weight of various shelters follows using 1/2 ounce alum stakes (ground hog or equiv)
12 Person - 12 oz / min 6 oz
4 / 6 / 8 10 oz / 5 min
Cimarron 5 oz / 4 min
BCS - varies on setup
LBO +3 4 oz
LBO Base Tarp Base 6 oz