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Kevin/Angie, have you guy's ever considered fabricating a way to pitch the LBO with an A-frame type pole configuration? I was thinking along the lines of how Locus Gear uses an A-frame as an option for setting up one of their little shelters. This eleminates the center pole, giving the user a little more freedom to move around inside the shelter. It looks like it would work great with the LBO, either using an A-frame two carbon fiber pole configuration or using two trekking poles with extensions that connected them together at the apex. Thoughts??

I was thinking about that just the other day. I suspect it can be done without much hassle , but it will weigh more and perhaps be harder to adjust. I have not seen the locus gear

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With this system the tips of your trekking poles slip into the end of the aluminum tubes, which that goes up into the pocket/apex, then the handles of the trekking poles are on the ground with the cord between them to keep them from spreading. Does this make sense?

Yes , makes total sense. A 120 degree angle piece at the top ( or close to 120) would make it contiguous

Yeah it would work but how long do your poles need to be for the LBO. The LBO seeems rather high compared to the max length of average walking poles. The longest hiking-poles I know have a max of 1,45 m.

Yeah, those extensions for the A-frame would definitely have to be longer to use with a LBO. I do think it would work as long as the extensions weren't so long that their integrity would be compromised under the stress of a big blow.

If the Apex angle is 120 degrees it means the length of an A-leg needs to be the height divided bij 0.5 (using cosinus rule) (1/2 apex angle gives 60 degrees and the cosinus of 60 is 0.50). So you need an A-leg of more than 3 meters it seems (i think the LBO is 1,60 in height if I'm not mistaken)....

Sorry - know this is an old post, but think the above is wrong! Height of lBO is around 64 inches. Width is 90 inches (I think - can't find the specs anywhere). Using good old pythagoras, this means the square of the hypoteneuse (pole leg) is square of 64" plus square of base 45" (to give right angled triangle) = 6121. So square root of that is 78 inches, or 6'6".

Slightly more manageable than 3 metres, or 9ft9"! I also find the centre poles somewhat intrusive, so I'm thinking of experimenting with this using a tennis ball to join the A-frame poles together. All I need now are two lengths of 6'6" (handily, that's exactly 2 metres) pole, preferably collapsible...

The center is reinforced enough to handle setting the poles in the center canted with any adapter . Your math is correct .

It can be done on all of our tents . I have tested a large tipi this way as well. However , you need longer poles and the poles have slightly different stresses under certain loads like a snow load .


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I would use it for moderate weather , no big snow loads etc ... Just an FYI , due to stresses being different and we haven't tested all tents in all conditions etx


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